Talk:Monstro City Troops

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I think it was in one of their appearances in the Dark Age Book One, where they were referred to as Monster Troops and not sure by whom. --Astrozac (talk) 22:08, 1 December 2014 (PST)

Thanks Zac! I'm counting on you to keep me honest here. My brain is on overdrive and focused as much on framework and process as it is on content. I'll do a quick check/search and if need be, undo the redirect here.
-Infobroker (talk) 22:17, 1 December 2014 (PST)
Found it! It's from some dialog of Royal Williams. Not sure it would be an official name for them, just some slangwich. What do you prefer here?
--Infobroker (talk) 22:27, 1 December 2014 (PST)

Hmmm, either sounds alright but Monstro City Troops works unless another character specifically referred to them as Monster Troops. Monstro City Troops serves as a better description too as opposed to just Monster Troops. --Astrozac (talk) 09:03, 2 December 2014 (PST)

Categories for Monstro City Troops type characters[edit]

I readded them to villains category, in addition to villain groups keeping it the same as the other villain groups which are dual listed.
Aliens just doesn't seem right to me though. While they are monster and creature like they're from Earth and this dimension. Kind of why I had Bertros as a Civilian. While he's not a human, he's a civilian in Monstro City. Maybe we need an Other Category for in betweeners and one's that don't fit elsewhere. Like Stockton and Moreton. But that might cover too much from the Unknown Alignment category... --Astrozac (talk) 23:22, 5 October 2015 (PDT)

I struggled a bit with this. I don't want to get to caught up in categories. Dynamic, creative things don't work well being put into boxes. I went with Aliens as a compromise of sorts. Alien definition doesn't limit itself to "things not of this earth" but I am fulling willing let non-earth/outer space be the demarcation point for Herocopia. It makes sense for a super-hero based indexing project. I removed Alien here.
I don't like "other" it winds up being a catcher for too much stuff and it is also a bit trite and overused.
I realigned Teams to be a super-set of two categories, Heroic Teams and Groups and Villainous Teams and Groups I moved all the old "Teams" to the former, and made a dent in the changing of Villainous Groups to Villainous Teams and Groups. Those new names will (I hope) help resolve your comments elsewhere and the dilemma of team versus group. I also hope it keep things from fragmenting excessively.
I want to keep the site friendly to casual readers. They should be able to make sense of the Category listing (for the most part) without needed heavy guidance. Our Categories list on the left margin sometimes drift beyond that I think.
Anyway, moving from general to this specific entry; I put Monstro City Troops in both Team Categories. Over the history of Astro City, their relationship has shifted and bent. Things are not all black and white, they are like shifting allegiances between nations, changing to suit the needs of the moment and the goals of the players. I would still like a term for the individual characters from Monstro City when they get called out here on Herocopia. Don't like civilian, we have stretched its usage significantly here as the site has evolved. --Infobroker (talk) 15:22, 6 October 2015 (PDT)

I think it's just the OCD organization in me, where if something isn't on a category list someone might not see something neat if they're scrolling through categories or subcategories...

And I think some of it is just the nature and uniqueness of this series, where we get things like an average "monster" who isn't a bad guy or a hero, he's just...normal when you get a perspective of him...Monstro Citizens?

Would Groups sound better than Teams for the category title? Or does their need to be team category? To keep from the fragmenting, use the current three groups and just list them as subcategories on the Heroes and Villians like the Villain Groups was?

Do you want the Civilian Groups removed individually and as a subcategory from the Civilians page too?

--Astrozac (talk) 22:58, 6 October 2015 (PDT)

Actually, I'm looking more for your advise and approval here. You're more in tune to this stuff. You've been heavily involved in it taking form and know the history. I looking at it more holistically, at a site level. I just wanted symmetry going down the hero and villain side more. That goes back to a comment I made on the Team's discussion page when I brought this site back online. I think with the couple of minor adds I just made, which have the 'hero teams' as a sub categories of heroes and the same for villains, it achieves that. And you can still get to them from the teams category symmetrically as well. Let me what you think here
I am fine with more sub groups springing off if from the main team category if we need them. Maybe we have enough unique pages to warrant a Citizen of Monstro City linkage, but then I wonder how that is different from affiliation lists. It gets messy and there are things we can do with page property attributes. We are barely scratching the surface there. If we exploit those more, we can derive interesting collection pages using sub-queries.
If I had a few more lifetimes and 48 hours days more stuff could be implemented ...
--Infobroker (talk) 00:01, 7 October 2015 (PDT)